What are your thoughts on these cars by comparison?
Re: Why is a 288 GTO worth millions and an RPO B2K TT is not?
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:05 am
by BIGJOHN
Chris old cars are only worth what someone is willing to pay for them!
There was a time when even Duesenberg‘s were worthless.
Re: Why is a 288 GTO worth millions and an RPO B2K TT is not?
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:57 am
by kingforward
True that BJ.
CC, you could compare the CTTC rarity and power to the L88 Corvettes too. Why do the L88 Corvettes sell for 10X-20X more?
Re: Why is a 288 GTO worth millions and an RPO B2K TT is not?
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:09 am
by SurfnSun
Ferrari vs Chevrolet first.
But even now the C4 still lags behind in the collectors view. First gen with a computer and modern sense of performance…why people still expect them to perform like C5 or C6.
Re: Why is a 288 GTO worth millions and an RPO B2K TT is not?
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:50 am
by *89x2*
SurfnSun wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:09 am
Ferrari vs Chevrolet first.
But even now the C4 still lags behind in the collectors view. First gen with a computer and modern sense of performance…why people still expect them to perform like C5 or C6.
When an IROC Camaro (with a few hundred miles) sells for over $100,000 and a similar C4 might see quarter of that, there's an issue with appreciation of a model. I don't get it...
The 1987-1991 B2K cars are prime for appreciation, but aren't. I understand what BigJohn and Kingforward are saying, but even given a fraction of appreciation of the CTTC's contemporaries, cars like the 288GTO, Testarossa, 928GTS, and other limited run vehicles, I don't see why the B2K isn't worth 5-6 times present.
Callaway supports the cars, and I saw 88+ turbos can be rebuilt if needed. Nothing is unobtanium. Maybe the World's best kept secret?
Re: Why is a 288 GTO worth millions and an RPO B2K TT is not?
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:41 pm
by SurfnSun
90% or some crazy higher number would be the number of remaining IROCs considered to be junk. That is a rarity of condition issue IMO. There are nice C4s everywhere
Re: Why is a 288 GTO worth millions and an RPO B2K TT is not?
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 8:46 am
by callaway4fun
Callaway supports the vehicles unless you are trying to get a 100+ installed
Re: Why is a 288 GTO worth millions and an RPO B2K TT is not?
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:12 pm
by jonstr
I have a theory, I don't know how accurate it is, but it makes sense to me.
I think it comes down to education. To the vast majority out there, Callaways are a 'tuner' car, done in the aftermarket. Cars like the 288GTO, L88, IROC, are all factory option cars. People just don't realize that RPO B2K WAS a factory option.
I ran into this showing my cars all the time. When I talked to people about them and explained the significance of the B2K option, almost every single one of them was surprised. They did not know about the RPO-aspect of the cars. One time, when I was showing my Speedster, I heard a guy tell his girlfriend 'Nah, that's just a Corvette with a body kit', and they walked on by. (Ok, granted, there WAS a fair amount of 'body kit' aspect to the Speedster, but they had no recognition of the history).
Keep showing those cars. Keep spreading the word. Callaway's have EVERYTHING needed to make for a high-dollar collector car. They're rare, they are powerful, they are beautifully constructed, and the B2K cars ARE factory options. What they don't have is recognition.
Just my two cents.
(P.S. Just don't show and talk about them too much until I can get another one.)
Re: Why is a 288 GTO worth millions and an RPO B2K TT is not?
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 1:11 pm
by *89x2*
Jonstr, fair point on the perception, and I think the hobby overall has done a horrible job portraying the significance of the RPO B2K in Corvette history. The misinformed hobbyists and several in ZR-1 groups of decades ago perpetuated the tuner mantra. But why?
Other avenues, like the National Corvette Museum, Bloomington Gold, and to some degree, the NCRS have done much better than others, supporting the facts and celebrating the option code and brand
Fact of the matter, the Callaway Corvettes were - and remain the most significant Fourth Gen Corvettes and left a legacy to build upon, which they have done nicely
Re: Why is a 288 GTO worth millions and an RPO B2K TT is not?